Jerrod Ankenman ([info]hgfalling) wrote,
@ 2008-01-04 16:31:00
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Wrong, but in a good way.
Today I took the GRE. I've been preparing for it halfheartedly over the last couple weeks, which means I bought a book and have been taking some practice tests. In the practice tests I have consistently scored 780-800 on math and 680-720 on verbal.

Today was the big day, so I drove down to Glastonbury to the testing center. These tests are computer-adaptive tests, which means they make the questions harder as you do better, etc. Also, this means you work at your own pace, on a computer, and no one else is there to bother you, which is a big improvement over the SAT imo.

When I arrived at the testing site, I took my blood sugar, which was inexplicably around 200. I didn't *feel* stressed out, but sometimes stress causes my sugar to rise. Anyway, this is bad, because I know from past experience that having high blood sugar causes my mind to work worse. Anyway, I took a shot and shrugged my shoulders and went in.

The first half of the test are essays. I felt "ok" about my essays; I actually sorta ran out of time on the first one, which usually means I wrote too much. The second one was better, I thought, but neither were my best work.

After a ten-minute break, I started the multiple choice sections. The verbal consists of four types of questions: antonyms, analogies, sentence completions, and reading comprehension.

In my practice exams, sentence completions were a breeze, analogies were easy as well unless (as occasionally happened) I didn't know the word at all. The other two categories would give me trouble, however. Analogies especially are maddening because the relationships between the words aren't always clear and I often feel like two or more answers are right.

In any event, the first verbal section felt like a disaster. There were TWO antonyms (out of 8) that I didn't know at all, the analogies were meh, the reading comprehension wasn't very difficult, but even the sentence completions felt tricky, and there were a couple sentence completions where I felt like two answers could be right.

Next was the math section, which was middling easy. There were a couple of problems that I wasn't sure how to solve analytically, but I wound up just plugging in numbers and figuring it out. After that was another verbal section. One of the verbal sections was therefore an experimental section (where they give new questions to establish a baseline for future testtakers). This verbal section wasn't quite as much of a disaster, but I didn't think it had gone well, either.

At the end of the test, they give you the option of cancelling your scores. I wasn't really feeling that good about the exam; the essays were bleh, the verbals were both yucky, and I just felt ok about the math. Then I thought to myself, "Self! If you cancel your scores you have to take the test again!" Finally I just decided to report the scores and see what happened. I mean, if it was really bad I could just take it again.

I got 800 on math and 770 on verbal. Nice read. (obviously the essays aren't graded in real time).


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[info]ronsrants
2008-01-04 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Today I took the GRE.

So if you pass, you become a high school graduate? :)

-R

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[info]sabyl
2008-01-04 10:29 pm UTC (link)
Are you thinking of going back to school?

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[info]dmorr
2008-01-05 12:01 am UTC (link)
Nice scores.

Standardized tests are the thing I am best at in life, probably. It's kind of depressing -- I mean, it just never comes up. If only there were some way to parlay that into real money.

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[info]hgfalling
2008-01-05 12:59 am UTC (link)
Yeah, i know what you mean. where is the "standardized testing pro tour"?

Yes, sabyl, I am going to go back to school.

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[info]dmorr
2008-01-05 01:01 am UTC (link)
So, what prompted the school thing? What are you going to study? And will it involve starting a GRE pro tour?

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[info]hgfalling
2008-01-05 01:10 am UTC (link)
Meh, poker sucks and I don't like to play it any more. I would like to renormalize my relationship with poker so that it will be fun and something I want to do. This seems that it will entail not playing for a while.

However, I need to pay the bills, so I need a job. I have various prospects and projects that I can work on, but in the longer run, I really feel like I need to round out my skill set. I just have a bachelor's degree in business management, with no advanced math at all. Everything I know has just come up in the course of our work and Bill just teaches me whatever.

So it appears I am going to do some consulting work for Bill's company, some research on my own, and try to find an appropriate graduate program (Columbia has an online program that is equivalent to their on-campus program, for example). Often when I am working on mathy stuff, I feel like I am missing a toolbox of things that people who have advanced degrees in math have. Hence I am going to get me one of those.

No GRE Pro Tour, however. I'm not sure it's right to financially reward people for knowing what pusillanimous means. We could get Kaplan and Princeton Review, et al to be sponsors, though. That would be funny.

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[info]barts185
2008-01-05 05:17 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure it's right to financially reward people for knowing what pusillanimous means.

A lot of people might be afraid to take the test if they saw that word on it .

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[info]michaelsullivan
2008-01-08 09:10 pm UTC (link)
I'm betting your read was a function of the computer adaptive testing.

given your scores and general facility with math and language, you probably, like me, find most standardized tests to be ridiculously easy. Since non-adaptive tests have to be geared to the average taker, that's not surprising. But this won't be true of adaptive tests, where the getting the first N questions right immediately puts you in a different realm.

Most likely the adaptive test asked you a bunch of questions that were as or more difficult than the hardest few on a non-adaptive test.

I think I would greatly prefer this as someone who is usually an outlier. On the math, particularly, I always felt the difference between an 800 and a 770 or even 700 was mostly luck. Luck meaning -- would the one hard question be completely outside my experience or not? would I miss some bit of detail in the questions or the prep? Might I mismark one or two answers? etc., rather than whether I understood the math. An adaptive test would more clearly distinguish between someone who is not a perfectionist but knows the concepts cold and someone who is straining to understand the harder stuff.

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